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As New Orleans goes, so goes the nation

Posted by schroeder915 on December 13, 2006

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Planetary Geodynamics Laboratory at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center:

A new study of the mass of ice capping Greenland reveals that the giant ice sheet burying the island has rapidly lost mass in recent years due to melting and iceberg calving. Between 2003 and 2005, the island’s low coastal areas shed 155 gigatons (41 cubic miles) of ice per year, while snow accumulation in the interior of the ice sheet was only 54 gigatons per year. The amount of ice lost in two years is roughly the same as the amount of water that flows through the Colorado River in 12 years.

Sheila Grissett, The Times-Picayune:

[Peter] Shelley said he believes he saw the kind of destruction that awaits other communities in the United States and beyond if policymakers don’t address climate changes that are increasing coastal erosion and, some scientists posit, possibly increasing the ferocity and frequency of hurricanes. …

“Why have we not seen action commensurate of the threat? Why has the robust and compelling body of climate change science not had a greater impact on action, especially in the United States?” asked [Daniel] Abbassi, who is associate Dean for Public Affairs and Strategic Initiatives at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies and who just published a new book, “Americans and Climate Change — Closing the Gap Between Science and Action.”

The bottom line, he said, is that science and the conservation and restoration community must learn to better explain — in everyday terms, to everyday people — that melting ice caps a world away are linked to the rising levels of water at the back doors of Louisiana and other coastal states.

The melting of the Greenland ice sheet is even more troubling than the melting of arctic ice because the Greenland ice sheet is on land, whereas arctic ice is floating and may already be displacing sea levels. Melting Greenland ice will positively contribute additional height to sea levels.

The terror seen in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina is coming to your town. Fifty-three percent of the U.S. population lives a coastal zone, but water management issues should also be on the agenda of people who live inland, such as in the Sacramento area.

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What happens in New Orleans, South Louisiana, and the Gulf Coast should be on the agenda of the new Congress and 2008 presidential hopefuls, because as New Orleans goes, so goes the nation.

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6 Responses to “As New Orleans goes, so goes the nation”

  1. F P said

    Yes oil is a natural resource that should belong to the community, not so much becuase it comes from the land that we all live on, but because of what it does to the environment that we all live in. How many lives per gallon does your car get?

  2. Puddinhead said

    Greenland ice sheet loss has the potential to throw a wrench in the works long before enough has melted to raise sea levels. Some climatologists have speculated that it might not take a whole lot of fresh water pouring into the northern end of the North Atlantic Subtropical Gyre to disrupt the “heat transfer” system by forcing the warm waters of the Gulf Stream away from the surface, due to the fresh water being so much less dense than the salt water even though it’s much colder. No warm Gulf Stream water flowing along the surface of the ocean past Greenland may mean nothing to moderate the climate of Western Europe.

  3. Chris Stevens said

    Check out the lates story from the white house:

    At a recent gathering of oil company presidents, President Bush assured the company heads that their industry was not at fault for global warming. The President explained that the real culprit is the Heat Miser from TV Show A Year Without Santa Claus, the episode where the Snow Miser makes it snow in Southtown.

    The President then went on a 5-minute tangent about how he wants one of those mini ice dancers for the ranch in Crawford.

    “Now here’s the kicker. For allowing snow in Southtown, Heat Miser gets control of the North Pole. So he and his mini flame dancing buddies warmed up the North Pole and that is what started Global Warming, not fossil fuels.” explained the President.

    Franklin Coles spokesperson for Exxon laid the blame with Hollywood “They have known the truth for over 30 years and yet they kept up the lie. I guess Al Gore and all those scientist don’t look so smart now do they.”

    Calls to both the Heat Miser and Snow Miser have yet to be returned. No word from Mother Nature as well.

    http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i12769

  4. closethehnc

    Posted 12 January 2007 08:58 PM Hide Post
    re: WRDA – MORGANZA – CPRA – Terrebonne/Barataria Basin – Houma Navigational Canal

    I OFFER MY CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WRDA COMPONENT MORGANZA-TO-THE-GULF, and the HOUMA NAVIGATIONAL CANAL.

    The Morganza-to-the-Gulf project was conceived pre-Katrina and Rita, it obviously doesn’t contemplate important findings, data, and other analysis from university, state and federal agency, other NGO’s and independent sources which expose deep, inherent flaws in the hydrological and economic characterizations upon which the project is based.

    The most important lessons which Morganza ignores:

    1. LEVEES DON’T WORK – THEY TURN WETLANDS INTO OPEN WATER OUTSIDE AND KILL THE ECOLOGY INSIDE THE LEVEE – see South Lafourche Levee District and every other levee ever built

    2. NAVIGATION CANALS KILL PEOPLE – see St. Bernard and Orleans

    3. PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DRIVEN BY PATRONAGE AND POLITICS, NOT SCIENCE AND COMMUNITY WILL – everyone, in their own experience, in this area can personally relate

    4. THE MOST IMPORTANT ECONOMY IN THE COMMUNITY IS THE WORKING HOME-OWNING FAMILY- NOT OIL&GAS and MARINE TRANSPORTATION – we were here a long time before oil&gas was discovered, we adapted before and we can again

    5. FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN, PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO LIVE – NOT JUST FAB YARDS – inappropriate over-industrialization of the wetlands must stop

    6. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A “LEAKY LEVEE” – like the unicorn, it simply doesn’t exist

    7. THE BASIN NEEDS WATER, MORGANZA IS “GASOLINE ON THE FIRE” – our land is above sea-level, why sink it like New Orleans did?

    8. MORGANZA IS A REPETITION OF PUMP-and-PAVE POLICIES THAT BEGAT ST. BERNARD AND NEW ORLEANS EAST – a project to spur more development in the wetlands

    The main feature of Morganza, the Houma Navigational Canal Lock, is the perhaps most offensive aspect of the project out of many. It is simply an indefensible boon to the very narrow interests of a few companies which refuse to contemplate **cheaper** and **better** solutions which would affect HNC traffic minimally.

    The HNC is half-as-long as the MRGO, but just as destructive. The direct and indirect wetlands and habitat loss due to the HNC is well-documented and publicized – over 25,000 acres have been lost.

    Even worse, the HNC cuts both ways. The Timbalier sub-basin, fed by Bayou Terrebonne, supplying the community’s most culturally and ecologically sensitive assets (Point-Aux-Chenes and Isle de Jean Charles) and protected wildlife preserves, is the most hydrologically starved sub-basin in Terrebonne and severely pressured by the South Lafourche Levee District. Atchafalaya and Wax Lake Outlet fresh water never gets to Bayou Terrebonne due to the Houma Navigational Canal.

    Worse yet, the HNC is a “triple-whammy” to the sensitive wetlands ecology: salt water intruding up the HNC north of Bayou Grand Calliou doesn’t flow back out the HNC- its flows into Bayou Grand Calliou, very efficiently distributing salt-water into the adjacent wetlands.

    A wholesale replacement of the basin’s hydrology by a series of culvert structures is another indefensible aspect of the Morganza. All evidence and previous experience portends a wholesale degradation of the habitat in such scenarios – 275,000 wetlands acres would be sacrificed in lower Terrebonne due to Morganza.

    There is no other alternative to save Terrebonne from the destruction suffered by St. Bernard: the Houma Navigational Canal must be closed – to be clear, “dammed with earth” or controlled with multiple floodgates – for any plan for Terrebonne’s coastal protection and restoration to be taken seriously.

  5. Bodreaux said

    There do a great job presenting climate change, the problem is that their is a deliberate obfuscation campaing purposely clouding the issue.

  6. Bodreaux said

    Help central south louisiana out. The people want to be part of ONE levee district but were never given the option due to Developer intrests:

    And what Newt Gringwich said… click here to see who is resposible for levee’s, ultimately.

    And the fact that MRGO was their little version of a Hurricane Highway allowing the surge to follow the canal up into the city.

    And that the canal also drasticly sped up the eroision of their wetlands for years.

    “We have to deal with greenhouse gases, From Shell’s point of view, the debate is over.” John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil Co.

    “Lache Pas La Patate”

    Posts: 186 | Registered: 10 January 2007 Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
    Ignored post by MadasHellCajun posted 18 January 2007 11:49 AM Show Post
    MadasHellCajun

    Posted 18 January 2007 11:53 AM Hide Post

    quote:
    E ONE LEVEE DISTRICT FOR LOUISIANA?

    I did not know that, Maybe it should be consolidated, Had that been discussed in the community before? I think it is pretty important.

    “We have to deal with greenhouse gases, From Shell’s point of view, the debate is over.” John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil Co.

    “Lache Pas La Patate”

    Posts: 186 | Registered: 10 January 2007 Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
    Ignored post by MadasHellCajun posted 18 January 2007 11:53 AM Show Post
    Reggie Bourg

    Posted 18 January 2007 12:18 PM Hide Post
    OUR REPS. FOUGHT TO KEEP US OUT – IT NEVER BACAME A PUBLIC ISSUE – BUT WAS HEAVILY DEBATED IN BATON ROUGUE – GOVERNOR BLANCO PUSHED FOR ONE LOUISIANA DISTRICT – BUT LEGISLATORS CAME BACK WITH AN EAST AND WEST DISTRICT – WE REMAIN ON OUR OWN – THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE – BUT IT NEVER GOT MUCH PUBLICITY?? GO FIGURE.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMENTS, WELCOME.
    RPB.

    CLOSE THE HNC BEFORE NEXT HURRICANE SEASONE, RPB.

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